>> madam, preserving the right to object. matters of this controversy, what we're talking about is a perpetual debt ceiling grant. >> i guess we have a filibuster of his own bill so i object. >> is there objection to the original request? >> yes, i object. >> objection is heard. i got whiplash. >> one of the more interesting moments, perry. what is the average american sitting become and watching c-span going to think of that? >> i think they are confused about what is going on. mitch mcconnell was trying to show that there's a divide among the democrats about how they raise the debt ceiling. there are 51 democrats for getting rid of congressional authority on the debt ceiling as well. they have been pretty unified. every democrat in the senate and the house is for about $1 tr$1 trillion in tax increase while the president has some divided on tax increases, some aren't, it's been challenging because democrats in the senate and the house are with him right now. >> does it tell us anything about where this whole debt ceiling is